{"version":"https://jsonfeed.org/version/1","title":"The Independent Living Group Podcast","home_page_url":"https://ilg.fireside.fm","feed_url":"https://ilg.fireside.fm/json","description":"Our aim is to make employment law understandable and accessible to everyone. We provide up to date advice and information for individual employers receiving direct payments or personal health budgets.","_fireside":{"subtitle":"Making Independent Living Even Easier","pubdate":"2023-05-15T16:00:00.000+01:00","explicit":false,"copyright":"2025 by Independent Living Group","owner":"The Independent Living Group","image":"https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/b/bd373d1c-26e4-4be3-97a3-4101e09f012f/cover.jpg?v=1"},"items":[{"id":"b694b6df-a051-49b4-8ff0-54fee7530a8c","title":"Sato","url":"https://ilg.fireside.fm/sato","content_text":"Back in 2022, David Ashley and Rachel Harkin (with sound and visual engineer, Greg Morris), went on a mission around the UK to meet and talk to some of the ILG community steering group. We had some fascinating conversations with PA employers keen to impart their stories and explain why employing PAs has worked for them despite the many challenges faced along the way.\n\nSato employed a team of PAs to support her late husband Lawrence who had a Personal Health Budget from the NHS.  She lives in Southwest London.  Sato has been an influential member of the ILG Community Steering group since its inception, despite playing down her involvement at any given opportunity!\n\nJoin the ILG Community today - The dedicated space for Personal Assistant Employers to share experiences, get support and unite their voices in order to help shape health and care services across the UK. https://ilgcommunity.com/","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eBack in 2022, David Ashley and Rachel Harkin (with sound and visual engineer, Greg Morris), went on a mission around the UK to meet and talk to some of the ILG community steering group. We had some fascinating conversations with PA employers keen to impart their stories and explain why employing PAs has worked for them despite the many challenges faced along the way.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSato employed a team of PAs to support her late husband Lawrence who had a Personal Health Budget from the NHS.  She lives in Southwest London.  Sato has been an influential member of the ILG Community Steering group since its inception, despite playing down her involvement at any given opportunity!\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eJoin the ILG Community today - The dedicated space for Personal Assistant Employers to share experiences, get support and unite their voices in order to help shape health and care services across the UK. \u003ca href=\"https://ilgcommunity.com/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ehttps://ilgcommunity.com/\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Sato employed a team of PAs to support her late husband Lawrence who had a Personal Health Budget from the NHS.  She lives in Southwest London.  Sato has been an influential member of the ILG Community Steering group since its inception, despite playing down her involvement at any given opportunity!","date_published":"2023-05-15T16:00:00.000+01:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/bd373d1c-26e4-4be3-97a3-4101e09f012f/b694b6df-a051-49b4-8ff0-54fee7530a8c.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":78930463,"duration_in_seconds":3946}]},{"id":"f56fbf65-4172-4939-889a-7aded9376993","title":"Agnes","url":"https://ilg.fireside.fm/agnes","content_text":"Back in 2022, David Ashley and Rachel Harkin (with sound and visual engineer, Greg Morris), went on a mission around the UK to meet and talk to some of the ILG community steering group. We had some fascinating conversations with PA employers keen to impart their stories and explain why employing PAs has worked for them despite the many challenges faced along the way.\n\nAgnes lives in Scotland and has employs PAs to support her son to live independently and is the Scottish representative on the ILG community steering group.  Agnes has channelled her experience employing PAs into her career by working as a DP advisor for many years.  We travelled north of the border to speak with her about her experiences.\n\nJoin the ILG Community today - The dedicated space for Personal Assistant Employers to share experiences, get support and unite their voices in order to help shape health and care services across the UK. https://ilgcommunity.com/","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eBack in 2022, David Ashley and Rachel Harkin (with sound and visual engineer, Greg Morris), went on a mission around the UK to meet and talk to some of the ILG community steering group. We had some fascinating conversations with PA employers keen to impart their stories and explain why employing PAs has worked for them despite the many challenges faced along the way.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eAgnes lives in Scotland and has employs PAs to support her son to live independently and is the Scottish representative on the ILG community steering group.  Agnes has channelled her experience employing PAs into her career by working as a DP advisor for many years.  We travelled north of the border to speak with her about her experiences.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eJoin the ILG Community today - The dedicated space for Personal Assistant Employers to share experiences, get support and unite their voices in order to help shape health and care services across the UK. \u003ca href=\"https://ilgcommunity.com/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ehttps://ilgcommunity.com/\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Agnes Hadden lives in Scotland and has employs PAs to support her son to live independently and is the Scottish representative on the ILG community steering group.  Agnes has channelled her experience employing PAs into her career by working as a DP advisor for many years.  We travelled north of the border to speak with her about her experiences.","date_published":"2022-10-19T13:00:00.000+01:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/bd373d1c-26e4-4be3-97a3-4101e09f012f/f56fbf65-4172-4939-889a-7aded9376993.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":56065483,"duration_in_seconds":2803}]},{"id":"ef1300bb-40b2-493f-9baf-e8680e01185a","title":"Jade","url":"https://ilg.fireside.fm/jade","content_text":"Back in 2022, David Ashley and Rachel Harkin (with sound and visual engineer, Greg Morris), went on a mission around the UK to meet and talk to some of the ILG community steering group. We had some fascinating conversations with PA employers keen to impart their stories and explain why employing PAs has worked for them despite the many challenges faced along the way.\n\nJade lives in Essex and is the chairperson of the ILG Community.  Passionate about supporting PA employers and bringing people together, Jade has employed PAs for several years.  We caught up with Jade (and her cats) in her home, to hear her story.\n\nJoin the ILG Community today - The dedicated space for Personal Assistant Employers to share experiences, get support and unite their voices in order to help shape health and care services across the UK. https://ilgcommunity.com/","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eBack in 2022, David Ashley and Rachel Harkin (with sound and visual engineer, Greg Morris), went on a mission around the UK to meet and talk to some of the ILG community steering group. We had some fascinating conversations with PA employers keen to impart their stories and explain why employing PAs has worked for them despite the many challenges faced along the way.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eJade lives in Essex and is the chairperson of the ILG Community.  Passionate about supporting PA employers and bringing people together, Jade has employed PAs for several years.  We caught up with Jade (and her cats) in her home, to hear her story.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eJoin the ILG Community today - The dedicated space for Personal Assistant Employers to share experiences, get support and unite their voices in order to help shape health and care services across the UK. \u003ca href=\"https://ilgcommunity.com/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ehttps://ilgcommunity.com/\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Jade lives in Essex and is the chairperson of the ILG Community.  Passionate about supporting PA employers and bringing people together, Jade has employed PAs for several years.  We caught up with Jade (and her cats) in her home, to hear her story.","date_published":"2022-10-19T13:00:00.000+01:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/bd373d1c-26e4-4be3-97a3-4101e09f012f/ef1300bb-40b2-493f-9baf-e8680e01185a.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":63030250,"duration_in_seconds":3151}]},{"id":"d2277b1e-0ea3-4a80-91ee-66517e833e56","title":"Capacity","url":"https://ilg.fireside.fm/9","content_text":"What happens if a Direct Payment recipient/individual employer lacks capacity?  How is a person’s ability to manage being an employer assessed and what are the implications when a suitable person is managing on behalf of someone else?\n\nIn this episode we explore these issues from an employment law and social care legislation viewpoint and look at some recent case law.\n\nFor all documents and referenced links please visit https://independentlivinggroup.com/episode-9-capacity/","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWhat happens if a Direct Payment recipient/individual employer lacks capacity?  How is a person’s ability to manage being an employer assessed and what are the implications when a suitable person is managing on behalf of someone else?\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIn this episode we explore these issues from an employment law and social care legislation viewpoint and look at some recent case law.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eFor all documents and referenced links please visit \u003ca href=\"https://independentlivinggroup.com/episode-9-capacity/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ehttps://independentlivinggroup.com/episode-9-capacity/\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"What happens if a Direct Payment recipient/individual employer lacks capacity?  How is a person’s ability to manage being an employer assessed and what are the implications when a suitable person is managing on behalf of someone else?","date_published":"2021-08-27T08:30:00.000+01:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/bd373d1c-26e4-4be3-97a3-4101e09f012f/d2277b1e-0ea3-4a80-91ee-66517e833e56.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":41260324,"duration_in_seconds":2062}]},{"id":"9903cb94-d9ee-4cb0-a48c-7b4c84e86ece","title":"Whistleblowing","url":"https://ilg.fireside.fm/8","content_text":"Whistleblowing is the term used when a worker passes on information concerning wrongdoing they have witnessed at work.\n\nIn this episode we delve into whistleblowing law in the UK and consider situations where it might be relevant to individual employers in receipt of Direct Payments.\n\nFor full show notes and documents please log in at https://independentlivinggroup.com/episode-8-whistleblowing/","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWhistleblowing is the term used when a worker passes on information concerning wrongdoing they have witnessed at work.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eIn this episode we delve into whistleblowing law in the UK and consider situations where it might be relevant to individual employers in receipt of Direct Payments.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eFor full show notes and documents please log in at \u003ca href=\"https://independentlivinggroup.com/episode-8-whistleblowing/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ehttps://independentlivinggroup.com/episode-8-whistleblowing/\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Whistleblowing is the term used when a worker passes on information concerning wrongdoing they have witnessed at work.\r\n \r\nIn this episode we delve into whistleblowing law in the UK and consider situations where it might be relevant to individual employers in receipt of Direct Payments.","date_published":"2021-08-11T11:15:00.000+01:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/bd373d1c-26e4-4be3-97a3-4101e09f012f/9903cb94-d9ee-4cb0-a48c-7b4c84e86ece.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":22030545,"duration_in_seconds":1101}]},{"id":"9b6704b9-d1ec-4846-bcf9-964ed842f77c","title":"Some Other Substantial Reason (SOSR) Dismissal","url":"https://ilg.fireside.fm/7","content_text":"In this episode we discuss the application of SOSR dismissals when advising individual employers with reference to some recent cases.\n\nSOSR applies when something significant has happened to warrant a dismissal, perhaps the funding body are putting pressure on the employer to part company with a PA or the relationship has broken down between the cared for person and the worker.\n\nFor all attachments and show noted please visit https://independentlivinggroup.com/episode-7-some-other-substantial-reason-sosr-dismissal/","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eIn this episode we discuss the application of SOSR dismissals when advising individual employers with reference to some recent cases.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eSOSR applies when something significant has happened to warrant a dismissal, perhaps the funding body are putting pressure on the employer to part company with a PA or the relationship has broken down between the cared for person and the worker.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eFor all attachments and show noted please visit \u003ca href=\"https://independentlivinggroup.com/episode-7-some-other-substantial-reason-sosr-dismissal/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ehttps://independentlivinggroup.com/episode-7-some-other-substantial-reason-sosr-dismissal/\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"In this episode we discuss the application of SOSR dismissals when advising individual employers with reference to some recent cases.\r\n\r\nSOSR applies when something significant has happened to warrant a dismissal, perhaps the funding body are putting pressure on the employer to part company with a PA or the relationship has broken down between the cared for person and the worker.","date_published":"2021-07-13T08:30:00.000+01:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/bd373d1c-26e4-4be3-97a3-4101e09f012f/9b6704b9-d1ec-4846-bcf9-964ed842f77c.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":35497189,"duration_in_seconds":1774}]},{"id":"0a4cf694-13b8-40ea-8b39-7e47db70be4c","title":"TUPE","url":"https://ilg.fireside.fm/6","content_text":"TUPE or not TUPE, that IS the question.  What does TUPE mean and when does it apply to individual employers? \nIn this episode we explore how PAs employment rights are protected when individual employers decide to stop being an employer and use an agency instead or when a DP is replaced by a service directly commissioned by a funding body.\n\nFor full show notes and attachments visit https://independentlivinggroup.com/episode-6-tupe/","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eTUPE or not TUPE, that IS the question.  What does TUPE mean and when does it apply to individual employers? \u003cbr\u003e\nIn this episode we explore how PAs employment rights are protected when individual employers decide to stop being an employer and use an agency instead or when a DP is replaced by a service directly commissioned by a funding body.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eFor full show notes and attachments visit \u003ca href=\"https://independentlivinggroup.com/episode-6-tupe/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ehttps://independentlivinggroup.com/episode-6-tupe/\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"TUPE or not TUPE, that IS the question.  What does TUPE mean and when does it apply to individual employers?","date_published":"2021-06-29T08:30:00.000+01:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/bd373d1c-26e4-4be3-97a3-4101e09f012f/0a4cf694-13b8-40ea-8b39-7e47db70be4c.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":36925565,"duration_in_seconds":1846}]},{"id":"76c86c94-7998-4920-a498-3171fb88ad8b","title":"Annual Leave","url":"https://ilg.fireside.fm/5","content_text":"Rolled up holiday pay?  Use it or lose it?  Entitlement to leave or pay?  In this episode we discuss and reflect on the rules around statutory annual leave and the recent Covid amendments.  We also consider how best to calculate leave for a-typical workers and discuss the impact of the recent case law that tackled this issue head on.  \n\nFor full show notes including links and attachments visit https://independentlivinggroup.com/episode-5-annual-leave/","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eRolled up holiday pay?  Use it or lose it?  Entitlement to leave or pay?  In this episode we discuss and reflect on the rules around statutory annual leave and the recent Covid amendments.  We also consider how best to calculate leave for a-typical workers and discuss the impact of the recent case law that tackled this issue head on.  \u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eFor full show notes including links and attachments visit \u003ca href=\"https://independentlivinggroup.com/episode-5-annual-leave/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ehttps://independentlivinggroup.com/episode-5-annual-leave/\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Rolled up holiday pay?  Use it or lose it?  Entitlement to leave or pay?  In this episode we discuss and reflect on the rules around statutory annual leave and the recent Covid amendments.","date_published":"2021-06-15T09:00:00.000+01:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/bd373d1c-26e4-4be3-97a3-4101e09f012f/76c86c94-7998-4920-a498-3171fb88ad8b.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":42465614,"duration_in_seconds":2123}]},{"id":"70b83fa4-db31-47e3-83a9-48c05210bd52","title":"Live In Care","url":"https://ilg.fireside.fm/4","content_text":"What do we mean by live in care?  Does it make a difference if the PA resides permanently in the employers home?  In this episode we seek to define live in care as opposed to long stay shift work and examine the relevant legal frameworks applicable to individual employers.\n\nFor all documents referenced in this episode please visit https://independentlivinggroup.com/episode-4-live-in-care/","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWhat do we mean by live in care?  Does it make a difference if the PA resides permanently in the employers home?  In this episode we seek to define live in care as opposed to long stay shift work and examine the relevant legal frameworks applicable to individual employers.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eFor all documents referenced in this episode please visit \u003ca href=\"https://independentlivinggroup.com/episode-4-live-in-care/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ehttps://independentlivinggroup.com/episode-4-live-in-care/\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"What do we mean by live in care?  Does it make a difference if the PA resides permanently in the employers home?  In this episode we seek to define live in care as opposed to long stay shift work and examine the relevant legal frameworks applicable to individual employers.","date_published":"2021-06-01T09:00:00.000+01:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/bd373d1c-26e4-4be3-97a3-4101e09f012f/70b83fa4-db31-47e3-83a9-48c05210bd52.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":45345353,"duration_in_seconds":2267}]},{"id":"262b64cb-b12f-4f19-8ca5-973ae0f09654","title":"Employment Status","url":"https://ilg.fireside.fm/3","content_text":"Can a PA ever be truly self-employed? What impact if any does the recent Uber judgment have for individual employers?  This episode considers these questions and explores the issues they raise.\n\nFor all documents referenced in this episode please visit https://independentlivinggroup.com/episode-3-employment-status/","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eCan a PA ever be truly self-employed? What impact if any does the recent Uber judgment have for individual employers?  This episode considers these questions and explores the issues they raise.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eFor all documents referenced in this episode please visit \u003ca href=\"https://independentlivinggroup.com/episode-3-employment-status/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ehttps://independentlivinggroup.com/episode-3-employment-status/\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"Can a PA ever be truly self-employed? What impact if any does the recent Uber judgment have for individual employers?  This episode considers these questions and explores the issues they raise.","date_published":"2021-05-18T14:00:00.000+01:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/bd373d1c-26e4-4be3-97a3-4101e09f012f/262b64cb-b12f-4f19-8ca5-973ae0f09654.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":45255491,"duration_in_seconds":2262}]},{"id":"5ad21072-4f38-46f1-8e39-87ff387d7c5f","title":"Reflections On The Sleep In Judgement","url":"https://ilg.fireside.fm/2","content_text":"As a result of the judgement handed down by the Supreme Court in the Mencap v Tomlinson-Blake sleep-in case we now know for certain that a person is not doing time work for the purposes of National Minimum Wage (NMW) unless they are awake for the purposes of working. \n\nThis is the end of the road for anybody hoping the judiciary would support the position that time spent asleep at work, when you can’t leave the premises by pain of discipline, should be defined as time work for NMW purposes.\n\nThis episode looks at the consequences of this judgement for Individual Employers and Direct Payment advisors.","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eAs a result of the judgement handed down by the Supreme Court in the \u003ca href=\"https://markbatesltd.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=fbeb53b148f88c51f8949fdba\u0026id=5b140abf75\u0026e=747e9f520f\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003eMencap v Tomlinson-Blake\u003c/a\u003e sleep-in case we now know for certain that a person is not doing time work for the purposes of National Minimum Wage (NMW) unless they are awake for the purposes of working. \u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis is the end of the road for anybody hoping the judiciary would support the position that time spent asleep at work, when you can’t leave the premises by pain of discipline, should be defined as time work for NMW purposes.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eThis episode looks at the consequences of this judgement for Individual Employers and Direct Payment advisors.\u003c/p\u003e","summary":"As a result of the judgement handed down by the Supreme Court in the Mencap v Tomlinson-Blake sleep-in case we now know for certain that a person is not doing time work for the purposes of National Minimum Wage (NMW) unless they are awake for the purposes of working. ","date_published":"2021-04-01T14:00:00.000+01:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/bd373d1c-26e4-4be3-97a3-4101e09f012f/5ad21072-4f38-46f1-8e39-87ff387d7c5f.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":48725263,"duration_in_seconds":2029}]},{"id":"80c0dfc9-d401-4a02-b408-ee88df31ea92","title":"COVID-19 And Its Effects On Individual Employers","url":"https://ilg.fireside.fm/1","content_text":"We join a live webinar with David Ashley from Mark Bates Ltd and Rachel Harkin From ILG Support. They discussed all things COVID-19 related and its effects on individual employers.\n\nFor all related documents discussed please visit https://independentlivinggroup.com/episode-1-covid-19-and-its-effects-on-individual-employers/\n\n\nVaccination Advice Note\nRoll Over Holiday Pay Advice\nUpdated Furlough guide \n","content_html":"\u003cp\u003eWe join a live webinar with David Ashley from Mark Bates Ltd and Rachel Harkin From ILG Support. They discussed all things COVID-19 related and its effects on individual employers.\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cp\u003eFor all related documents discussed please visit \u003ca href=\"https://independentlivinggroup.com/episode-1-covid-19-and-its-effects-on-individual-employers/\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003ehttps://independentlivinggroup.com/episode-1-covid-19-and-its-effects-on-individual-employers/\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\n\n\u003cul\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eVaccination Advice Note\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eRoll Over Holiday Pay Advice\u003c/li\u003e\n\u003cli\u003eUpdated Furlough guide \u003c/li\u003e\n\u003c/ul\u003e","summary":"We discuss vaccines, Furlough and how to get your PAs back to work. ","date_published":"2021-03-12T09:00:00.000+00:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/bd373d1c-26e4-4be3-97a3-4101e09f012f/80c0dfc9-d401-4a02-b408-ee88df31ea92.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":68433096,"duration_in_seconds":2850}]}]}